014: What You Need To Know About CBD Oil & Your Skin w/ Pamela Orth

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CBD has boomed in the US in recent years, but there is still a lot of confusion and misinformation about exactly what it is, and what it can do for our health. 

 

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Pamela Orth is the Partner and Director of Business Development at Restorative Botanicals, one of the leaders of certified organic supplements, oils, and foods. She has hands-on experience developing two skincare lines. Pamela is also very passionate about health and wellness, and trains people on the ins and outs of CBD and the endocannabinoid system.

In this exciting conversation, we delve into CBD and its uses for chronic skin rashes and overall wellness. 

Have you used CBD in your skincare protocol? Let us know in the comments!

 

In this episode

• The difference between CBD and THC
• Endocannabinoid receptors: what they are, and how CBD oil (an adaptogen) is connected 
• Uses for CBD oil
• How CBD could be a helpful addition to your skin protocol
• The potential benefits of taking CBD orally in conjunction with applying it topically

 

Quotes

“CBD is one of the easiest and most accessible cannabinoid, or molecule, in the hemp plant. It is also found in the marijuana plant; it's found in artichokes, asparagus, arugula, etc. THC, the cannabinoid or the molecule that would get people high, is only found in the marijuana plant.” [1:58]

“Skin conditions can be eased and lessened with the use of a cannabinoid topically, and I firmly believe internally as well. You have to address things from both sides.” [13:12]

“To really gain the full benefit of any supplement or nutritional change, you need to do it from the inside out.” [18:17]

 

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014: What You Need To Know About CBD Oil & Your Skin w/ Pamela Orth FULL TRANSCRIPT

Jennifer:              Hey everyone. Welcome back to the Healthy Skin Show . Today I have a very special guest and I'm actually excited to talk about this because this is going to be one of the first times that we're going to talk and it is a first time cause there's going to be other opportunities to discuss how CBD, right? So CBD oil, you've probably heard about this, it's something that is coming more into mainstream market that you can buy online, might be available in your state. But CBD oil I need to use for chronic skin conditions. And so I have with me today a Pamela Orth. She is the partner and director of business development at restorative botanicals, which is one of the leaders in certified organic supplements, oils and foods. And she's got hands on experience developing two separate skincare lines, which is why I thought this was the perfect fit. And she's also very passionate about health and wellness and she actually trains people on the ins and outs of CBD and the endocannabinoid system. And if you're like, what did you just say, Jen, don't worry. You're going to understand by the time we are done. Pamela, thank you for joining us.

Pamela:                Oh Jen, thanks for having me. I'm really excited.

Jennifer:              I know. So, okay, the first question, every time I'm like, Hey, so I think you should try some CBD. The first thing is A, what is CBD and B, what is T H C

Pamela:                Yes. I knew where you were going right away with these questions. I get them as well. And thanks for allowing me to give you my input on them. So for us, I'm in the know, which is kind of the state of Colorado. THC and CBD no longer mean the same thing or people don't feel quite as nervous. CBD is one of the easiest and most accessible cannabinoid or molecule in the hemp plant. It is also found in the marijuana plant. It's found in artichokes, asparagus, arugula, which is one of my favorite foods, period, etcetera. T H C the cannabinoid or the molecule that would get people high is only found in the marijuana plant. So we deal with CBD, which again could come from many sources but only from the certified hemp plant here grown in the United States.

Jennifer:              Okay. So that's an important differentiation. Everybody, if you're nervous cause I get plenty of questions like isn't that going to make me feel loopy? No, because CBD so, and the other thing that I noticed just as a practitioner is that at one THC must be listed, I think the THC content, if it's present, has to be listed on the product. And I think that's where the legal issue comes into play. So what you can buy online, typically there's no THC involved in it because they can't ship it across state lines.

Pamela:                Yes. There better not be, you don't want to be buying a product that does THC in your grocery store or your pharmacy, your medical practice or your favorite online marketplace. If it says THC in fact run.

Jennifer:              Really?

Pamela:                Yes. Yes, that is illegal, Jen. Just like you said.

Jennifer:              Okay, well good to know. And I think that's important for everybody to know. And, and, and it's also important to know that a lot of the CBD oil that's out there is coming from hemp plants. But tell us, if you go to the grocery store and you buy a bottle of extra Virgin pressed hemp seed oil, is that CBD?

Pamela:                No, that's full of great Omega. So that's a very, very wonderful thing in itself. But CBD, the cannabinoid comes from a full spectrum hemp extract. That means the whole plant, not the seed. I, there's, I love the seed oil. I bake with it, I make cookies with it and I'm actually very hungry. So that sounds good. But to get your cannabinoids to your endocannabinoid system, which you mentioned earlier, you have to have the CBD as well as others. CBN CBQ there are other molecules there. Excuse me. But from the seed, unfortunately you don't get the goodness.

Jennifer:              Okay. So that's a good question. And it's a good question. You know, this is a new frontier for all of us. So I want to make exactly and we want to make this as easy and and bite sizable for people who are listening as possible because I think there's a lot of fear around this and there, there doesn't need to be. And so let's talk a little bit about why before we go into skin specifically, which I know you can talk about. There is something in the body called endocannabinoid receptors, which most people haven't even heard of because this is a pretty new concept. It may have been around for a while, but it's just starting to be, be be talked about. So what our endocannabinoids, see, even for me it's, it is now full endocannabinoid receptors. Where are they? What are they and how does CBD come in to play with that?

Pamela:                Fantastic question. And it, it's so brand new. So brand new 30,35 years old is really the whole history of learning about our endocannabinoid system. But really, especially in America it's about three to four years old. So we have really three major receptors. CB1 receptors tend to deal with the brain, our cognitive ability. I'm actually, even some of our own nervous conditions come from the brain or CB1 receptor. CB2 tends to be in your flesh. Women of course have more going on than men, no offense men. But we also have our endocannabinoid receptor number two and our anandamide receptor in our reproductive tissues. So it's really CB1 is the thinking receptor. And I like to think of two as the one that gets the rest of us going the rest of our body topical,uinternal, and then really for women, our whole reproductive system and what we're passing on to the next generation.

Jennifer:              And so how, so if you take CBD oil, what's the connection there between those receptors and the oil?

Pamela:                Okay, so great question. And it's a big question. Lots of answers. I believe the simple answer is the hemp plant has been shown through biology, through every single kind of field. There is to have grown up alongside humans and animals. And it really changed over time. As humans did our needs changed over times and they have plant literally grew across continents along with humans. And so oil that's extracted from the entire plant has, I believe about 113 different cannabinoids. All of those cannabinoids talk to our endocannabinoid system. It's called an adaptogen. And there are other adaptogens out there. Some people understand totally basal or they understand black cumin seed or mushrooms, ashwagandha. So this is another one of those that speak directly to our endocannabinoid system.

Pamela:                But the hemp plant that cannabidiol has the utmost authority over everything when it talks to our system. So really an easy thing to get into our bodies in their proper format, topical topically, sublingually. I drink it in my coffee every day to make sure I get my endocannabinoids. It's just, it's hard to understand a little bit.

Jennifer:              And so for somebody listening, they might go, well, that's great, but how is that going to help me? So do you have any like what are some ways in which or uses for CBD oil?

Pamela:                Great questions. And, and I love questions because it gives me an opportunity to think and be better as well as everyone just to learn and say, just say out loud, but we're all thinking or wondering. So I appreciate it Jen.

Pamela:                And so our endocannabinoid system, it works constantly whether we're asleep or awake.

Pamela:                And some people, a simple example is they have restless leg syndrome. A lot of women tend to understand this more than men and especially as we age or before childbirth, after childbirth. In the middle of the night you might wake up with literally pain and tingling, firing sensations or cramping or you don't know, but you know, you're just, you've got to move. That's a firing or a trigger being set off in your body. Hemp CBD in particular, again, a great cannabinoid out of it, about the 113 we recognize so far speaks or calms down those triggers, those firing mechanisms. Many, many people across the U S will come back after using a product for only two or three days consistently and say, I slept through the night. I didn't wake up with my legs burning or not even knowing why I had to move or kick the covers off. People who have to jump out of bed are saying they slept through the night.

Jennifer:              And I can actually attest to that. I take CBD every night. I don't, I don't need a whole mega dose. I started at like one drop and I worked myself up to eight. And for me that works great. And what it does for me is I, if I do wake up in the middle of the night, I don't end up with this racing anxiety, thoughts type thing that I just, I can't get back to sleep. So when I take it, what I find is if I like, I have to get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom, I can go to the bathroom, get back in bed and go back to sleep. And so getting that much better quality of sleep has helped me dramatically in how I show up every day. And on top of it, I also use a face serum. So when my skin feels a little irritated or what have you it's really nice because it'll help calm things down. It's just like, it just, it's almost like my skin wants to absorb it and it has some CBD in it. So why don't we talk a little bit about that, like the connection between skin issues and how CBD might be a help, helpful part of your protocol.

Pamela:                I would love to, and I also have to tell you that our team just came in because we're building new walls and I'm like, no, go away right now, but I'll so exciting. We're expanding into a larger space in our same building. So it's really exciting here. I have to say, by the way, Jen, your, what you just said about waking up and not your mind not racing. That's another incredible thing we hear all the time. People who can't either get to sleep or they can't maintain their sleep and even if they wake up they're so stressed they can't get back to sleep. And you just said it very eloquently actually of, you know, you don't mind wake up with your mind racing and if you do, you're able to settle again.

Jennifer:              It's the worse, it's a worse thing to wake up in a panic in the middle of the night. It is so awful. I'm like, I just, I, I give up, I give up the sleeping, I'm just going to give up and then you feel awful full all day.

Jennifer:              You start your life in a state of anxiety and panic. And so that's why it's been so helpful to me, which is why I, you know, we, we found one another cause I've been seeking this information. So that's why too, you know, with the skin stuff, I use that a lot with my clients. And so tell us a little bit, you've got a lot of experience in the skincare industry. Like how can CBD be helpful for chronic skin issues?

Pamela:                It's a great question and it's a multifaceted answer. So I hope I helped a little today and then I'm invited back. So for skin skin conditions, the gamut is there from anyone that has rosacea to myself, I have aging skin, I'm 56, so I have sun damage and I have uneven skin. I have arthritic condition coming on in my hands, which is terrible. It goes on and on to psoriasis. I, I can't even, it's so sad, but our bodies go through as we're just trying to live and be normal, happy humans. So one of the things that I found with CBD and cannabinoids is that it, again, we're talking about those firing triggers the things that you need to calm down. Hemp is known as the calming plant. So many people that find they have rosacea consistent blackheads women in their mid fifties who have a hair that now turns into a black head before it pops out, etcetera.

Pamela:                Weird skin conditions can be eased and lessened with the use of a, of a cannabinoid topically. And I firmly believe internally as well, you have to address things from both sides. And there's another component to CBD, which is very important to mention here. CBD is fantastically intense on its own. But really if we're talking something topical, you need to add other components and other adaptogens to make sure it gets through the layers of your dermis. CBD oil feels incredible on your skin. It just feels soothing. Moisturizing. It's emollient, it's wonderful, but really get it deep into your dermis. You have to use a nice adaptogenic product or another essential oil is my belief. I, I'm not talking mental, I'm not talking until the negative factors out there. I am talking things such as Bergamot not the one that will give you some sensitivity, but there is a great,uBFP free bergamot. There's a calendula oil.

Pamela:                There are hemp seed oil is another great one. And again, your omegas come into play right there. There's also, we have something that we made for ingestion and then we found out from a dermatologist, actually it's great for pimples and blackheads and youth and specifically we believe because of the black cumin and frankincense combination. So three adaptogens together, the CBD cannabinoids, the black cumin in the frankincense. And whether it's that combination or another really think about it. You want it to work, you want it to be really effective.

Jennifer:              I also want to just underline a point. You said no. Menthols so, and I agree with that by the way, for everybody listening, if you're going online and you're looking for salve and yes, there are a lot of salvess out there. But a lot of the ones that I've looked at all have like peppermint and mint in them, which you don't want to put on rashy skin that's gonna hurt. So you've gotta be very careful about what salves you use that have CBD in them because they're not all, most of them are not appropriate for people that actually have skin problems.

Pamela:                I agree fully Jen, and we've, I think my generation of 56, you know, my mother used a salve that had menthol. And so that fast acting cooling relief was what she thought you had to have for it to be effective. When in fact, she ended up literally having red dots on her arms forever and they, I don't believe they were all that uncomfortable, but they were embarrassing. They, you know, did affect how her clothing felt when she was wearing it on and on and her doctor eventually told her it's, this is the salve that you're using over the counter that you should stop.

Jennifer:              Yeah. And, and you, you had mentioned something to me about if you, if you have a skin issue because the, the topical salves may have CBD in them, it's not absorbed as deeply as, so they're helpful to a point, but maybe also at the same time using an oral is a good way to kind of like join them together. Can you talk a little bit about that?

Pamela:                Yes. Thank you for asking. They, the concept I believe goes with any kind of nutritional change for our bodies. A lot of times we say the word supplements, but that really means what are you, what are you ingesting topically or through your mouth or nasal passage, etc. Even your hair. Think about everything you put on your hair, goes in, into your body and then gets absorbed in your stomach lining. And so you want things that are gonna work for your, for you, your particular body, your needs. And although I love our creams and balms, we have one that's a calendula base that with lavender, I just love. And so for me, that's my go to happy place. I also, because I do have a little bit of arthritis coming up, I I broken my collarbone, I broke my left knee, I broke my left hand.

Pamela:                You know, I'm, I was more adventurous when I was younger. I, I firmly believe that I do not receive the same anti-inflammatory relief if I'm not doing a sublingual. I also have found if I don't add to sublingual to my everyday regimen and I, I take a very small amount for someone in the industry, I'm probably in the 15 to 20 milligrams of CBD total all day long. I don't need believe that you need a large quantity unless you're very, have a serious illness of some kind. But so I'm back to the idea of a topical and either a sublingual or something you're taking orally, a soft gel perhaps. The idea is you're hitting things from both sides and your body, everything goes through your gut. If it can't even get through your dermis it can, CBD itself is wonderful again to, to help your skin, but to really impart the wonderful properties of it, you might need an adaption and to really gain full benefit of any supplement or nutritional change, you need to do it from the inside out as well.

Jennifer:              Yeah, and I can add to that that one of the reasons why is that CBD does have a lot of anti-inflammatory properties to it. And so if you've got all this inflammation, which a lot of chronic skin rash issues are driven by inflammation, so an inflammatory process that's going on all the time, it's like basically like having an internal fire burning and you're like, Oh my gosh, how do I, how do I dampen this down? And so they'll use a steroid inject. That's why you get to steroids guys. That's how you get steroid creams and steroid injections and steroid pills and all sorts of steroids cause they're trying to put the top, the cap on your internal inflammatory process. And ultimately when you stop, you take that cap off. Everything goes back to the way it was before. Whereas with CBD, because we have those endocannabinoid receptors, it's actually doing something on a biochemical level that is helping to reduce the inflammation internally.

Jennifer:              So it is, it has a similar action, but it's not the same. It's not a band aid. That's what I, that's what I'm trying to get at here. It's not a band aid. It can be a part of the solution and it's also not addictive. I'll put it that way. It is not addictive. I've been taking it since April. I can go off of it. I'm fine. I don't, I don't need it. I just do sleep better with it. But you know, whether I use it or not is neither here nor there. I just, I like the benefits that I get from it. Pamela, this has been awesome. Number one. Yes, you can totally come back.

Jennifer:              And I hope that you know, we have more, you know, I definitely want to make sure that we can provide our listeners with a lot more. I know too, you've got a great website restorativebotanicals.com so that's a really cool thing. And if everybody wants to go check out your products, they can do that. We're going to have a coupon code for you guys. I will put that in the show notes for this show so that way you can go and make some purchases and try things out. And I think that's what's most important is to try out things. And yes, you can have them shipped to you if you're not in Colorado because they don't have THC in them. So there's no worry about that. All right. And yeah, I totally want to have you back and we'll talk more about this very soon. How about that?

Pamela:                Thank you so much and I had a great time. So thanks again for having me on.